The question speaks for itself. Are we obliged to take life so seriously that it causes mental stress, problems in our relationships, physical illness, fear of this and that, is it possible to have certain issues in our lives yet remain free from the anxiety of it all?
Spiritual commentators may tell us that it is OUR fault and that we should not blame the leaders for it, I would disagree. They are having such an impact on peoples lives that it cannot be ignored completely. If things are not working, we look to those at the top. A change of leadership in the world would make a huge huge difference.
Yet it is WE who remain responsible for our thoughts words and actions at any given moment, and so we need to address the issues there either way. We are not achieving anything with negativity towards self and others, which ever way we look at it.
Some people go around with the world on their shoulders as if responsible, if they let go, the world will fall apart, perhaps part of the control freak thing again also.
We don't need to carry this weight.
re:why do we take life so seriously?
by howiemac on 16 Oct 08 at 10:30
are we obliged to take life so seriously
I say we are not - indeed, we are, as souls, incarnated in these bodies in order to experience life - its ups and its downs - but we should experience it as a game we are playing.
A change of world leadership would make a huge difference only if a suitable leader could be found! Actually I suspect we are moving away from the pyramid structured society that makes leaders powerful and necessary - the leaders no longer have much influence on the machine - their controls don't really work any more - they can only pretend to be leading us, when in fact they are just reacting to events, and being forced to go with the flow. We are reaching the final stages of entropy - order descends to chaos, and people are taking power back into their own hands - individuals, families, communities, these are the future - authoritarian structures, and the control freakery they foster, are past their sell-by date.
'If you don't take life seriously, you cannot be serious about life'
by Al on 16 Oct 08 at 17:32
No one I speak to seems to have a plan. They are so caught up in the distractions being created by those who wish to cause fear, a state of mind which is not natural to the human soul. Nor is taking life serious, otherwise, taking life serious would be a self generating, self replenishing thing, bringing vitality to the worrier or even much farther into the positive still. Bliss. Yet, parents and self imposing authorities get scared at the thought of us not taking life serious in case the world falls apart. Meanwhile, it seems to be falling apart because people ARE taking it too serious. 'If you don't take life seriously, you cannot be serious about life' sort of thing. If we are serious about life, we will approach it in a light way, though there is no self respect in allowing others to walk all over us in a totalitarian way.
we don't just want a lack of fear, we want constant peace which is not just the absence of conflict, and love which is not just the absence of......conflict. We don't need conflict of any kind, it means that something is not working in its natural way IE our personalities and accessing the natural positive aspects of it.
I agree with the pyramid thing falling. Perhaps we could see the "pyramid" thing as the stabilisers on a child's bike, or the water wings that children use in a swimming pool. A crutch for disabled people or disabled minds which are incapable of anything more advanced.
We would appear to be going into times when the mind of humans will heighten and won't need such support from such rigid structures, if we ever wanted them in the first place that is, which we should see falling away.
Of course, I presume that, if you don't want rigid structures and social crutches, you cannot be taking life seriously and should be seen as an undesirable. People are capable of making up their own minds as to what is truly undesirable I am sure, once they taste the sweetness of their own inner nectar.
we don't just want a lack of fear, we want constant peace which is not just the absence of conflict, and love which is not just the absence of......conflict. We don't need conflict of any kind, it means that something is not working in its natural way IE our personalities and accessing the natural positive aspects of it.
I agree with the pyramid thing falling. Perhaps we could see the "pyramid" thing as the stabilisers on a child's bike, or the water wings that children use in a swimming pool. A crutch for disabled people or disabled minds which are incapable of anything more advanced.
We would appear to be going into times when the mind of humans will heighten and won't need such support from such rigid structures, if we ever wanted them in the first place that is, which we should see falling away.
Of course, I presume that, if you don't want rigid structures and social crutches, you cannot be taking life seriously and should be seen as an undesirable. People are capable of making up their own minds as to what is truly undesirable I am sure, once they taste the sweetness of their own inner nectar.
moral bankruptcy
by Al on 17 Oct 08 at 14:35
Would it be fair to say that the pyramid of sorrow is at its weakest at the top stone? Take the top stone away and the whole thing could cave in. Also, a pyramid is one corner short of a square and may be less stable.
And, I take back those crutch comparisons in my last post, the control freak pyramid is perhaps more like a zimmer frame for those who's time is close. A system which has ran its course.
With regards to leaders, I am not convinced that there is 'no need for them at all'. Realistically, there may be a need for leaders who can be an example and lead the many from their berths on the rigid pyramid. We all need to learn how to live and love all over again. How to be free without the need to be policed and told what to do, controlled and bullied.
And, I take back those crutch comparisons in my last post, the control freak pyramid is perhaps more like a zimmer frame for those who's time is close. A system which has ran its course.
With regards to leaders, I am not convinced that there is 'no need for them at all'. Realistically, there may be a need for leaders who can be an example and lead the many from their berths on the rigid pyramid. We all need to learn how to live and love all over again. How to be free without the need to be policed and told what to do, controlled and bullied.
And it seems that many or most spiritual organisations are adopting and running a pyramid type effort, and have done for a long time.
Leaders are like technology, they are not bad by nature, it is a question of what kind of leaders and what their agenda is. Replacing spiritually handicapped with more spiritual retards would be of no use, such as what happens in the political world, a world of moral bankruptcy.
never mind the capstone...
by howiemac on 18 Oct 08 at 11:14
No one I speak to seems to have a plan.
do we need a plan? or do we just need to learn the first principles of our true spiritual nature, and learn how base our behavior on these principles? A plan suggests am attempt to control. Maybe we just need to learn to let life flow, and to be flexible in our reactions?
so caught up in.. fear, a state of mind which is not natural to the human soul
yes - fear has no place in the new world
we don't need conflict of any kind, it means that something is not working in its natural way
yes - conflict has no place in the new world
We would appear to be going into times when the mind of humans will heighten and won't need such support from such rigid structures, if we ever wanted them in the first place that is, which we should see falling away.
I think we are seeing that already - the cracks are now gaping wide!
if you don't want rigid structures and social crutches, you cannot be taking life seriously and should be seen as an undesirable
if we are not seen as undesirables then we are not trying hard enough!
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fossils
by Al on 18 Oct 08 at 15:11
A plan suggests am attempt to control.
A plan may not be possible or we are having expectations. "the best made plans" and all that.
"The cosmos" "drama" "god" however is another matter, but may not be our concern. Perhaps that is where "faith" comes in, and simply flowing with it. We know that the new world will come, is more or less here, bar the old fossils and skelitons that are still lurking around like dinosaur bones. I presume they will be swept aside to make way for the new.
A plan may not be possible or we are having expectations. "the best made plans" and all that.
"The cosmos" "drama" "god" however is another matter, but may not be our concern. Perhaps that is where "faith" comes in, and simply flowing with it. We know that the new world will come, is more or less here, bar the old fossils and skelitons that are still lurking around like dinosaur bones. I presume they will be swept aside to make way for the new.